A coin got inside the washing machine. How can I get it?

Frame wire for a bra: what is it made of and what harm does it cause?

At first glance, if you compare the size of the machine and the linen accessories, it seems that it is unlikely to do any harm. But the point is not in size, but in the material from which the bone is made.

Most often, frames or bones for linen are made of metal or coated steel.

Getting stuck in the tank of the machine, such corsetry parts begin to rust, stain water and washable items, and can tear linen. And these are even the easiest of troubles. Much worse is that a sharp metal bone can easily pierce the washing machine tank, damage the coating of the heating element, tear the cuff or drain pipe.

If the fittings are made of plastic, then they are less destructive.

Although, when a plastic bone has fallen deep into the washing machine, it can also make a mess. For example, pierce the same drain pipe or slip into the pump and disable it.

Where to look for a bra wire

An uninvited guest gets into the washing machine, falls through and gets stuck in different places:

in the perforation of the drum;
at the bottom of the tank (the most common case): under the heating element or between the bends of the heater tube;
in the space between the drum and the tank (top, side, back);
in the drain pipe, filter or pump (very rarely).

Depending on the place where the bra wire is, you can get it out in five ways.

Attention! Before you start disassembling the washing machine, unplug it from the power supply! Follow safety precautions, this will protect you from injury and electric shock.

Instructions for removing a foreign object

If you are sure that the cause of uncharacteristic sounds when the washing machine is operating is a foreign object that has gotten into it, and working with equipment is not new, then you can remove it yourself. In machines with horizontal (front) loading, this requires removing the back or front wall. Most often the rear, but this nuance depends on the model. There are other differences in different models, so before continuing work it is better to find a disassembly diagram for a specific washing machine.

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Here we will give instructions for disassembling the most common version with removing the back wall and top cover. Before proceeding with disassembly, drain all water from the machine through the drain hose and turn off the power supply.

Next you need to perform the following steps.

Unscrew the two bolts on the back wall - they secure the top cover.
Slide the cover back a little and it will come off.
Unscrew the screws securing the back wall and remove it.
Sometimes items of clothing (belts, socks, handkerchiefs, thin scarves) that fall behind the drum are wound onto the heating element (heating element), then they can be seen already at this stage. But even after removing them, if you hear noises when the washing machine is operating, it is better to check if anything else has gotten inside.
Remove the heating element. To do this, you need to disconnect the wires going to it and unscrew the fastening nut. The heating element can be hooked onto the visible part with a screwdriver and pulled out.
Shine a flashlight through the hole formed, and then you can see a bra bone or other object caught between the surface of the drum and the tank. If nothing is visible, spin the drum; perhaps something is stuck at the top: when scrolling, it will fall to the bottom of the tank.
Make a hook out of wire (its length and configuration depends on the location of the stuck piece of clothing) and use it to remove the foreign object.
Install the heating element, having first cleaned it of scale. In this case, you need to make sure that it fits tightly into place, then tighten the fastening nut and connect the wires.
Assemble the machine by tightening the bolts on the back wall and replacing the top cover.

Advice
Before disconnecting the wires, you need to draw a diagram of their connection or take a photo, so that later you can make the connection correctly.

The first method is how to remove a bone from a washing machine through the drum

Can be used if the bone has just begun to fall through and sticks out with the tip outward from the perforation of the drum.

To locate the part, examine the drum from the inside over the entire surface with your hand. It is very difficult to see thin fittings in shiny metal, but they can be easily identified by touch.

Hook the tip of the bone with tweezers, narrow-nose pliers or wire and pull it out.

The second method is to remove the bone through the heating element

Attention! This method is suitable for horizontal washing machines with a rear heating element, when the heat element is located under the tank at the bottom.

You felt the drum and found nothing sticking out. This means that the accessories that “escaped” from the laundry have already slipped into the tank. From repair experience, craftsmen know that when a bone from a bra falls into the washing machine, most often it falls to the bottom of the tank and gets stuck in the TEN area. And you can get it out by removing the heating element from the washing machine tank. In fact, you need to remove the heating element, find and pull out the bone, and then put the heater in place.

For this:

Remove the back cover from the machine.
Turn off the power to the heating element, remove the terminals from the contacts. Typically, three wires are suitable for the heater: phase, neutral and ground. Phase and neutral have a terminal contact; the grounding contact can be secured with a nut on the central stud.
Loosen the fastening nut on the stud. You will see it when you remove the grounding. Unscrew the nut until it is flush with the end of the stud (there is no need to remove it at all).
Carefully press the pin inside the heating element so that it “sinks” up to the nut.
Move the heating element and remove it from the socket (sometimes serious effort is required).

Attention! Do not swing the heating element by its contacts or pry it with a screwdriver. You will damage the contact pins or sealing collar.

In half of the cases, the bone is removed along with the heating element because it gets stuck in the loop of the heater tube. In other cases, it is found at the bottom of the tank under the installation site. Often, instead of one fitting, there are two, or even three.

Housewives do not always associate the loss of a frame from a cup with the washing machine, and a bone can slip into the tank without noise or knocking, without showing signs of its presence. Therefore, it is located only when disassembling the heater, behind.

Inspect the TEN carefully for damage. Sometimes a metal strip breaks the heater very badly, literally into pieces.

But more often it leaves small dents or scratches on the tube, which are hardly noticeable. And the owners of the machine put the damaged element in the tank, and then are forced to carry out serious repairs to the equipment due to a breakdown of the heater, electrical short circuit and other surprises. Therefore, it is safer to immediately change even a slightly dented heating element.

When the bone is pulled out and the heater is normal, you can put it back in place.

The procedure will be the reverse of disassembly:

Push the center pin outward by pressing on the inner mounting plate.
Insert the heating element into the hole, gently pressing the cuff.
Screw the fastening nut onto the stud. Do not tighten it all the way, you will compress the seal and it will leak water from the tank. It is better to tighten it a little looser and then tighten it if necessary if moisture appears in the hole. But, as a rule, the seal seals the tank well and additional tightening of the nut is not necessary.
Connect the power supply to the TEN.
Plug in the machine and run a test wash without replacing the back cover. To check if there is a leak from the tank through the heater socket.

Attention! Be careful not to touch the inside of the machine with the lid removed while washing.

If everything is in order, there are no leaks, secure the lid, having first disconnected the washing machine from the mains.

What to do if the bra bone is not visible through the hole from the heating element?

If an object is stuck between the tub and the washer drum near the shaft at the top of the tub, it may not be visible through the heating element hole. In this case, you need to perform a number of actions.

The third method is how to get the bone through the drain pipe

This method can be used if you do not want to remove the heating element or when it is located under the front cover, for example, in Samsung machines. Disassembling such a model causes difficulties for equipment owners - they need to remove the cover, cuff, front panel, etc. to get to the heater. Therefore, it is easier to remove the mounting clamp and look into the tank through the pipe.

The procedure for washing machines without protecting the housing from leaks will be as follows:

Place the washing machine on its side.
We remove the bottom, if there is one: unscrew the fasteners or snap off the latches.
Loosen the fastening elements on the pipe (clamp or ring) and remove it from the ledge of the tank.
We inspect the drain hole and the visible part of the heating element and tank. We take out the bone from the bra. Sometimes it falls out of the pipe on its own, but more often you need to look for the fittings by shining a light into the hole.

After removing the foreign object from the tank, we install the pipe in place, fix it with a clamp, secure the bottom, and turn the machine over to its normal position.

If you are the happy owner of a washing machine with the Aquastop system for protecting the body from leaks, then we recommend getting to the drain pipe through the back wall. In this case, of course, you won’t be able to look into the hole in the tank onto which the pipe is placed; you’ll have to go by touch, but removing the bottom where the Aquastop is installed is still a task, even for a master. After all, you first need to dismantle the leakage protection system, and for this you will need to disassemble half the machine.

The described method can help remove a bra wire from a washing machine with a front-mounted heating element without much disassembly, but it does not always work. The drain hole where the pipe is attached is quite narrow. If the bone does not lie directly above it, but far to the side, higher or lower, it is difficult to see it and, even more so, to pick it up. In addition, if removing the bottom of the machine is problematic (for SMA with protection of the body from leaks), then the possibilities of the search operation are reduced even more: it is inconvenient to crawl up to the tank from below, you have to search for a bone by touch, as far as your fingers can reach, etc.

How to properly remove an item from a washing machine?

There is the simplest and most effective way to remove a foreign object from a washing machine. To do this, you need to pull out the heating element, and also unscrew the bolt securing the pulley (but not completely). This will allow you to slightly shift the position of the tank and, by tapping in an inclined position, remove the stuck part (through the hole for the heating element).

Experts do not recommend disassembling the SMA structure yourself when an object has fallen under the drum of the washing machine. It is better to turn to experienced craftsmen. We quickly and without damage remove any small items from the tank of the machine that could cause it to break down.

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Fifth method - remove the bone from the drainage system

It happens that the bone safely slips through the tank with the heating element and ends up in the drain system of the machine - in the pipe, filter and even the pump.
We are mainly talking about plastic accessories for ladies' corsetry. It, unlike metal, is not so rigid and easily breaks in the drum, without causing significant damage to the parts of the washing machine. That’s why it “flies” so far. There is a bone in the filter
First, check the filter. It is usually located in the lower left corner of the front of the car behind a special hatch.

To clean the filter and possibly remove the seed:

Open the hatch. It is fixed with a latch, so you need to press the cover or carefully pry it off with a screwdriver.
Slide a dry cloth under the washing machine in the area of the filter or tilt the SMA back, resting it on the wall, and place a container so that the remaining water does not spill onto the floor.
Unscrew the filter and pull it out of the hole.

Inspect the filter and the hole, the bone may be there or there. At the same time, remove any other small debris that has gotten into the car. Wipe the filter installation hole and rinse it with running water.

If the bone is found, then everything is in order.
If not, look directly into the pump (in the case when it is located directly behind the filter in front). You may see a piece of plastic sticking out and you will be able to remove it. A bone in the pipe
If nothing sticks out of the pump and the machine drains water normally, then most likely a bone is stuck in the pipe. There is a third way to get it from there.

But first you need to put the filter in place and close the hatch.
Tighten the filter carefully and at the same time tightly so that the machine does not leak during washing. A bone in the pump
The first sign that an “uninvited guest” is in the pump is that the machine either does not pump water out of the tank or does not drain well. The pump may make a lot of noise and grinding noise. This is not good, but if the pump crackles and goes completely silent, it’s even worse. Silence indicates that the engine has burned out and the pump will have to be replaced. Therefore, try to deal with the situation while the pump is still alive and making a lot of noise.

To remove a foreign object you need to get to the pump and open it.

In different brands of washing machines, the pump is located differently. And you need to get to it in different ways.

In most cars of the brands Ariston, Ardo, Veko, Indesit, Samsung, Candy, Whirpool, LG, the pump is located below the filter. Therefore, you can first inspect the pump through it. For full access, it is most convenient to place the machine on its side and carry out all operations through the bottom.
In the Electrolux and Zanussi brands, the way to the pump is through removing the back panel, because the pump is located closer to it.

The “Germans” (AEG, Bosch, Siemens) have the most difficult path. You need to remove the top cover and front panel, as well as pull out the dispenser, remove the locking of the hatch cuff and disable the door lock.

Attention! We recommend contacting specialists immediately if you have German equipment. Since disassembly and assembly in these brands is complex and requires experience and accuracy. You can damage the car if you do it yourself

Disassembling the pump
The design of the pumps is practically the same. To inspect the “insides” you need:

Prepare a container for water or a rag. When you disconnect the pump, water will flow out of it. To prevent a puddle from ending up on the floor, perform disassembly operations over a basin or place a rag.
Disconnect the pump from power. To do this you will need to disconnect the connector.
Remove the screws that secure the pump to the housing.
Disconnect the drain hose on one side and the pipe on the other by loosening the clamps.
Disassemble the pump. To do this, you need to unscrew the volute from the body and pull out the engine and impeller from it.

Now inspect the pump from the inside. The bone may be located between the impeller blades or pressed against the casing. Pull it out and inspect the impeller itself for damage. If there are any, then you will have to change the pump (impellers are not sold separately). Even with a “live” engine, a pump with a broken impeller will not drain water.

It is rare, but it happens that the bone did not have time to disable the pump, but simply slowed down its rotation. Then you are in luck and after removing the “alien” you can assemble the pump and put it in place.

Check the pump for leaks before assembling the machine completely, plug it in and put it on a quick wash.

Be careful! Do not touch the internal parts of a working washing machine that is not fully assembled.

The wire from the bra fell into the washing machine and lies quietly - take it out or leave it there

Sometimes a bone clearly disappeared in the car, the owner pulled out her bra and noticed. But at the same time, the washing machine does not make noise, does not tear things and works like a clock. What to do in this case, should you search and pull it out or leave the “alien” inside?

Theoretically, you can leave it, but craftsmen find deposits of bones in machines when disassembling them due to other faults. But remember that even the fittings lying quietly in the tank are a foreign object that should not be there.

A metal or plastic bone at the bottom will eventually become covered with dirt (hair, dust from clothes, threads), which will smell unpleasant and you will have to think about how to remove the musty smell from the washing machine.

In addition, metal lying in a damp place and constantly getting wet during washing/rinsing will begin to rust and stain the water in the tank, which will contaminate things. Removing rust stains from laundry is very difficult, and sometimes even impossible. That is, the damaged item will have to be thrown away.

A plastic bone is also dangerous because when it comes into contact with a heating element, it begins to melt when heated and smells like burning. This can ultimately lead to damage to the heat element.

Masters recommend! If a bone is stuck in the washing machine, remove it as quickly as possible. For example, after 1-2 washes. Otherwise, big problems may await you due to the extra detail.

What is the danger of getting a bone into the drum?

Smell, dirt, rust on clothes, torn items are minor troubles compared to what a bra wire that has fallen inside the washing machine can do.

We already talked about serious problems when we figured out what kind of object this is - a bra wire. Now let's take a closer look at them.

Linen accessories in the washing machine:

Deforms the drum and damages (pierces) the tank. A sharp metal plate ruptures the drum cells or flies into the tank wall like a bullet, making a hole. As a result, you have to change the tank or even buy a new washing machine.
Destroys the heating element or damages its surface , which leads to breakdown of the heating element. When a metal bone gets stuck at one end in the perforation and the other ends on the heating element, it cuts the heater tube like a knife. If the fittings fall inside the loop, it breaks the heat element into pieces. As a result, you have to change the heating element.
It tears the tank cuff and causes a leak. As a result, you need to seal the original cuff or replace it with a new one.
Pierces the drain pipe . If a bone gets into the drain hole, it can pierce the rubber pipe with its sharp end. Repairing holes in it is difficult and unreliable, so it cannot and must be replaced.
Damages or disables the pump. Most often, plastic bones slip into the pump; they break into pieces quite easily when they get into the drum. Once in the pump, bone fragments can damage or jam the pump blades. In the case of a “wedge”, the pump will hum strainedly, but will not pump water. If the obstacle is not removed in time, the engine of the unit will burn out and you will have to install a new pump.

What can you do to get the item?

Rag items (for example, a sock) can sometimes be pulled out without any available means. But if it's stuck tightly, you'll have to use a hook made from a metal hanger. The tank can be deformed. This can be corrected with a few blows of a rubberized hammer.

However, if an object gets into the drain pipe, it will be much more difficult to get it out. Manufacturers design gaps and door seals in such a way that the lip is located as close to the drum as possible, but does not come into contact with it. Otherwise, rags, small objects and especially children's clothes can slip down between the tank and the drum and, as already mentioned, end up in the drain pipe. You'll have to clean it entirely. To detect blockages, the easiest way is to use a special cable with a micro-camera that connects to a laptop or smartphone.

We will get to the pipe through the opening of the heating element. Depending on the brand and model of the washing machine, you will need to remove the front or back panel of the case - this process is labor-intensive, so we recommend not to risk it and call a specialist.

If the camera shows that there is no blockage in the pipe, you need to check the drain under the sink to see if it is clean. In addition, you should diagnose the position of the engine (whether the motor is loose on the pulley or whether there are cracks in the spokes) and the condition of the concrete counterweights - perhaps the cause of the noise lies in them.

Translated by Elremont
Washing machine repair / General questions

What to do if another foreign object gets into the washing machine

The bra pit in the washing machine is not the only “uninvited guest.” During inspections, craftsmen find coins (even anniversary coins!), buttons, pins, curtain fittings, Lego parts, bolts, screws, nails and other small items. The dimensions of this “good” are smaller than those of a stone and they are less likely to linger in the perforations of the drum or at the bottom of the tank.

Their favorite habitats are:

Cuff near the door hatch. “Creeping small fry” easily gets into the fold and remains there.
Drain pipe. There are small metal parts, screws, and nails left in it.
Drain filter. There may be a warehouse of coins, nuts and screws, and small plastic items. Everything that slipped through the pipe, but did not have time or could not fly into the pump.

Water pump. It carries light plastic parts, such as parts of a children's construction set, matches, small fittings, and buttons.
Drain hose. Matches, small pins, and plastic dowels fly through the pump.

Since the size of this “good” is small, they usually do not cause significant harm, such as breaking the heating element or damaging the tank. But, for example, a nail or self-tapping screw is quite capable of damaging the heating tube, unraveling the perforation of the drum, or even making a hole in the tank. And it’s easy to break the pump or cause a blockage.

Therefore, if there is extraneous noise in the machine, pump noise or other strange sounds, it is worth looking to see if there are any foreign “guests” in the inside of the washing machine. If it’s difficult to handle on your own, call a repair specialist.

A foreign object has entered the washing machine - express removal

As soon as it becomes clear from characteristic sounds or visual signs that there are foreign objects in the drum, certain measures must be taken immediately. First of all, you need to stop the wash and cancel the already running program. This is done by performing the following sequential manipulations:

You need to press the start button and pause.
As soon as the machine stops washing, you need to press the same button again and hold it for 5 seconds.
After this, the pump will pump out the water and the machine will turn off.
You can open and remove a foreign object that accidentally gets into the drum.

In any case, you cannot do without these manipulations, since as long as there is water in the machine, the hatch will not open, and therefore it will not be possible to remove the foreign object.